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A LIMITED RANGE OF 7mm SCALE BR/LMS TUBULAR POST UPPER QUADRANT SIGNALS CAN BE MADE TO MADE TO ORDER, WITH PRICES STARTING FROM £35 WITH ILLUMINATED LAMPS OR £30 WITHOUT.  PLEASE EMAIL OR PHONE WITH YOUR REQUIREMENTS. DUE TO PACKAGING REQUIREMENTS THESE SIGNALS WILL BE SUBJECT TO P&P.

SEE BELOW FOR GENERAL SPECIFICATIONS AND AN IDEA OF LIKELY COSTS

 

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I have been a signalman on BR, Railtrack and Network rail now for more than 30 years, and I have developed a passion for signals and signalboxes (Its not all buses on this site!)

While working at Chester PSB I got involved with a friends gauge 0 garden railway and rashly offered to build some BR/LMS upper quadrant signals for it.(This railway has its own fotopic site, click on this link (TALACRE)  to visit)

I made some masters for signal arms, lamps, backlight blinders etc and set about casting almost all the parts I needed.

I have produced 10 signals for the layout so far, including a 4 post gantry for the main station with about 4 or 5 yet to do.

Visitors to the layout have subsequently ordered a few signals and I have now built about 50 for various customers in the last 3 years!

Each signal is workable by your chosen method and is fitted with LEDs in the lamps. The arms, lamps, backlight blinds, lampmans platforms are whitemetal. The posts are brass tube or etched brass from MSE. The ladders, coloured lenses and post caps are also from MSE.

Some pictures of them are shown in the centre column in which I will eventually show all the signals I have built. Click on each thumbnail for an enlarged view.  To see more pictures of the signals I have built, Click this button--- Fotopic Model Signals Page

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Click on the picture above to see a short clip of a signal operated on memory wire.

So how do I order a signal then?

Have a think about your track diagram and your needs and ring me up for a chat or send an email with a few ideas.

Some basic design points to bear in mind when designing your signals.

  1. Where is it going to be placed? Would a driver be able to see it? Take into consideration bridges, tunnels, canopies and other scenic bits and bobs.

  2. Will it physically fit where you want it to be? What's under the baseboard and will you have room for the operating mechanism?

  3. What's the signal for? Plain line, junctions left or right, parallel running lines, shunt moves etc?

  4. This is not a hard and fast rule, but generally, a bracket signal controlling diverging routes from one track will have it's dolls or posts a scale 6ft apart, and a bracket signal controlling parallel running lines converging to one line (at the end of a loop or slow line or exiting a bay platform) will have the dolls or posts a scale 11ft apart. 

Alternatively, you can maybe get an idea of what you need from the chart below. It is by no means an exhaustive list but may help a little. The functions of one type of signal may be fitted to another configuration. You may wish to consult your book and photo collections for further inspiration!

Click on the thumbnails below to see larger pictures.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Fancy some RTR signals for your layout?

As stated above, I can build a limited range of 7mm scale LMS/BR(M) style tubular post signals to order.

The signals I have built so far are mainly designed for garden railway use, and as such they may appear a bit "chunky" and slightly overscale in some respects to be robust enough for outdoor use, but the main dimensions are from the excellent but now sadly out of print book, "LMS Signals" by L.G.Warburton. Click on the thumbnails in the centre column to the left to get an idea of the end result.

The general specification is as follows:-

Main posts from brass tube, soldered.

Whitemetal castings for arms, lamps, bracket supports, backblinders, post caps, landings and other sundry post fittings.

Machined brass trimmers (the horizontal supports to which each of the "dolls" are fixed)

Brass wire, strip and tube for all necessary operating rods and cross shafts. "Return to danger" springs fitted if required.

OPERATING RODS EXTEND ABOUT 2" BELOW BASEBOARD LEVEL TO ALLOW FITTING OF YOUR OWN PREFERRED OPERATING METHOD.

Brass or nickel-silver wire for safety railings around landings.

Etched brass ladders.

3mm White LEDs fitted to each lamp  and either a 470 ohm or 1k ohm resistor wired to positive side with rest of signal as negative (if requested.)

Sprayed with primer then finished with appropriate enamels. Light weathering at no extra cost.

How much are they likely to cost?

As a rule an illuminated tubular construction straight post signal will cost (£35) with one arm plus (£15) per additional arm to a max of 3 arms.(4 if all are shunt arms)

A similar specification bracket signal will cost (£60) with one arm plus (£15) per additional arm to a maximum of 3 dolls or posts with a maximum of 6 arms in total over entire signal.

The maximum number of arms on each signal reflects what I can reliably guarantee to work! More than that is possible but the workings become a bit too crowded and cumbersome.

As stated elsewhere, a drive rod to approx 2" below baseboard level is provided but operation of the signals is left for the customer to provide their own preferred system.

I cannot as yet build an LMS gantry, but I am looking into getting etches prepared so I can offer these at a later date.

Please deduct (£5) per arm for NON illuminated signals.

Feel free to email or phone to discuss your requirements. Full details in the contacts and ordering page.

I can only offer these prices on my own specifications but I will build from kits if requested. These will of course be more expensive due to higher initial costs. I can work to photographs or drawings if supplied.  

 

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TYPE TYPICAL OR SAMPLE CONFIGURATION  GENERALLY FOR? SIZES (scale feet) LIKELY COST
STRAIGHT POST STOP SIGNAL photo Controlling straight ahead movements along plain line, at ends of platforms, loops etc 17'to 30' £35-£45
STRAIGHT POST DISTANT SIGNAL Gives an indication of what the next stop signal will be showing 17'to 30' £35-£45
OFFSET BRACKET LEFT OR RIGHT (with up to 3 dolls and a total of 6 arms) photo Used where a straight post signal would not be visible to the driver or where a straight post could not physically  be situated 16'6" to cross trimmers, 15' width, up to total height of between 20'-35' £60-£155
BALANCED BRACKET(with up to 3 dolls and a total of 6 arms) photo Controls diverging routes at junctions (dolls 6' apart) or parallel lines converging to one (dolls 11' apart). 16'6" to cross trimmers, 15' width, up to total height of between 20'-35' £60-£155
SHUNT SIGNAL (with up to 4 arms) photo With smaller shunt arms, for controlling diverging routes in sidings and yards. 17'-25' £35-£80
RUNNING LINE TO LOOP photo For use when a loop line or goods line diverges from a main line.    
STOP & DISTANT SIGNAL photo Where 2 signalboxes are close together, the starting signal of one signalbox may have the distant signal of the next box underneath it.    
         
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